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Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Jan 21 @ 7:25 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Flyers Gameday: 1/21/14 vs. Carolina
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jan 21 @ 7:32 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Flyers Gameday: 1/21/14 vs. Carolina
- bmeltzer


Nice job as always Bill. Hopefully Voracek's injury is minor.

Now I'm off to stock up on Scotch, beer and chips before it starts to snow!
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 21 @ 7:55 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Flyers Gameday: 1/21/14 vs. Carolina
- bmeltzer



Olesky on waivers from WSH... right-shot, mature, steady, tough, mobile, league-minimum contract. Not the most flashy or purely skilled player out there, but they desperately need another right-shot in the group, and unlike Hal Gill, they might actually play him.

At worst, if he's not up to snuff, they just re-waive him or he joins the Phantoms.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 21 @ 8:19 AM ET
Olesky on waivers from WSH... right-shot, mature, steady, tough, mobile, league-minimum contract. Not the most flashy or purely skilled player out there, but they desperately need another right-shot in the group, and unlike Hal Gill, they might actually play him.

At worst, if he's not up to snuff, they just re-waive him or he joins the Phantoms.

- Tomahawk


Yeah, Olesky can't be much worse than what they have currently and he's a righty shot. He's also good at getting under opposing players' skin. Seems like everytime he plays the Flyers he's in a fight or getting into trouble
ggunky
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I like cold beverages, NJ
Joined: 04.09.2008

Jan 21 @ 8:23 AM ET




LET'S GO FLYERS!!! CLAP! ~ CLAP! ~ CLAP!CLAP!CLAP!!!



LET'S GO FLYERS!!! CLAP! ~ CLAP! ~ CLAP!CLAP!CLAP!!!



LET'S GO FLYERS!!! CLAP! ~ CLAP! ~ CLAP!CLAP!CLAP!!!



ggunky
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I like cold beverages, NJ
Joined: 04.09.2008

Jan 21 @ 8:24 AM ET
Yeah, Olesky can't be much worse than what they have currently and he's a righty shot. He's also good at getting under opposing players' skin. Seems like everytime he plays the Flyers he's in a fight or getting into trouble
- Jsaquella



Do the Flyers have a contract slot available for a move like this?

Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 21 @ 8:25 AM ET
Do the Flyers have a contract slot available for a move like this?
- ggunky



49/50... currently at 53 w/ 4 slides.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jan 21 @ 8:28 AM ET
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jan 21 @ 8:31 AM ET
Olesky on waivers from WSH... right-shot, mature, steady, tough, mobile, league-minimum contract. Not the most flashy or purely skilled player out there, but they desperately need another right-shot in the group, and unlike Hal Gill, they might actually play him.

At worst, if he's not up to snuff, they just re-waive him or he joins the Phantoms.

- Tomahawk

why is he being waived?
ggunky
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I like cold beverages, NJ
Joined: 04.09.2008

Jan 21 @ 8:34 AM ET
49/50... currently at 53 w/ 4 slides.
- Tomahawk



I think he is worth a look.

Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jan 21 @ 8:44 AM ET
Olesky on waivers from WSH... right-shot, mature, steady, tough, mobile, league-minimum contract. Not the most flashy or purely skilled player out there, but they desperately need another right-shot in the group, and unlike Hal Gill, they might actually play him.

At worst, if he's not up to snuff, they just re-waive him or he joins the Phantoms.

- Tomahawk


Stay the course
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jan 21 @ 8:48 AM ET
Stay the course
- Just5


stay on target.

PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 21 @ 8:49 AM ET
It would be nice to get some help from the PP
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 21 @ 8:51 AM ET
why is he being waived?
- Marc D


Numbers crunch more than anything. Orlov is playing more and Olesky is the odd man out. He's not great, but he can probably be as good as guys like Grossmann, Schenn & Gill.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jan 21 @ 8:53 AM ET
why is he being waived?
- Marc D


Because he wasn't smart enough to demand a trade like many of the Caps.

/Erat
//Orlov
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 21 @ 8:55 AM ET
why is he being waived?
- Marc D



.... and Connor Carrick
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Jan 21 @ 9:11 AM ET
A loss tonight is inexcusable, also the defense needs to protect Mason more. What happened to the defense 1st approach? Now we are trying to out gun and out skate opposing teams......
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jan 21 @ 9:16 AM ET
A loss tonight is inexcusable, also the defense needs to protect Mason more. What happened to the defense 1st approach? Now we are trying to out gun and out skate opposing teams......
- GOA88


The defense is there in front of the goalies for the most part. From what I see they all collapse into slot area in front of the goalie and to a good job marking people. The problem is due to the lack of foot speed on the team, teams can hem them in their own end for long stretches with cycles, and will get multiple shot attempts before the flyers retrieve the puck.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 21 @ 9:22 AM ET
The defense is there in front of the goalies for the most part. From what I see they all collapse into slot area in front of the goalie and to a good job marking people. The problem is due to the lack of foot speed on the team, teams can hem them in their own end for long stretches with cycles, and will get multiple shot attempts before the flyers retrieve the puck.
- Just5


There were two goals yesterday that were the direct result of blown coverages by Grossmann, that had nothing to do with speed. He made bad reads and failed to do his job well.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jan 21 @ 9:29 AM ET
There were two goals yesterday that were the direct result of blown coverages by Grossmann, that had nothing to do with speed. He made bad reads and failed to do his job well.
- Jsaquella


I remember one on him and then the tying goal I think it was coburn that didn't get to his man quick enough on the pk.

Islanders took advantage of a slow flyers team. One that gets frustrated when you get on the puck carrier hard and quick
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 21 @ 9:34 AM ET
I remember one on him and then the tying goal I think it was coburn that didn't get to his man quick enough on the pk.

Islanders took advantage of a slow flyers team. One that gets frustrated when you get on the puck carrier hard and quick

- Just5


That has more to do with puck moving ability and decision making than foot speed. The Flyers defense panics when they face a good steady forecheck, because they're not especially good at moving the puck, either by passing or skating it out themselves.

Foot speed is an issue-as evidenced from the multiple breakaways where the Isles simply blew past the defense, but it didn't cost them goals. But they also have issues with decision making and "hockey sense" matters, like making proper reads and maintaining discipline in their coverage and overall play.

On the 1st goal, Grossmann failed to pick up Tavares. On the 2nd, he and Brayden Schenn chased the puck and left a man open at the side of the net. On the third, Coburn was late reacting and didn't pick up Okposo in time.

BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jan 21 @ 9:40 AM ET
stay on target.


- hammarby31

Cover me, Porkins!
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jan 21 @ 9:42 AM ET
That has more to do with puck moving ability and decision making than foot speed. The Flyers defense panics when they face a good steady forecheck, because they're not especially good at moving the puck, either by passing or skating it out themselves.

Foot speed is an issue-as evidenced from the multiple breakaways where the Isles simply blew past the defense, but it didn't cost them goals. But they also have issues with decision making and "hockey sense" matters, like making proper reads and maintaining discipline in their coverage and overall play.

On the 1st goal, Grossmann failed to pick up Tavares. On the 2nd, he and Brayden Schenn chased the puck and left a man open at the side of the net. On the third, Coburn was late reacting and didn't pick up Okposo in time.

- Jsaquella


when is the last time we had a fully competent defense corps that was good under pressure, could skate the puck out and move it out quickly?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 21 @ 9:43 AM ET
when is the last time we had a fully competent defense corps that was good under pressure, could skate the puck out and move it out quickly?
- hammarby31


The days when Keenan played Howe & McCrimmon for 35 minutes and Crossman & Marsh for 25?
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jan 21 @ 9:46 AM ET
The days when Keenan played Howe & McCrimmon for 35 minutes and Crossman & Marsh for 25?
- Jsaquella


that's what i was thinking as well, but running 4 dmen into the ground without a third pair hurt them when i counted most, imo, so to me it's not a fully competent d unit. i'm talking 6 guys. ever?
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